ARCHIVED - Telecom Commission Letter addressed to Mr. Jean-François Dumoulin (Iristel Technologies inc.) and Mr. Stephen Schmidt (TELUS Communications Inc.)

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Ottawa, 23 October 2019

Our references: 8663-J64-201806019, 8663-T66-201805722


Mr. Jean-Francois Dumoulin
Vice-President Regulatory and Government Affairs
Iristel Technologies Inc.
675 Cochrane Drive
East Tower, 6th floor
Markham, Ontario, L3R 0B8

Mr. Stephen Schmidt
Vice-President – Telecom Policy & Chief Regulatory Legal Counsel
Telecom Policy and Regulatory Affairs 
TELUS Communications Inc.
Floor 8, 215 Slater St.
Ottawa, Ontario, K1P 0A6

RE: Iris Technologies Inc. and TELUS Communications Inc. – Applications for relief regarding the termination of traffic to certain 867 numbering plan area telephone numbers. Request for further information.

Dear Sirs,

Responses to the attached request for information to be filed by 30 October 2019.

Any document filed with the Commission must be served on all parties. Where a document is to be filed or served by a specific date, the document must be received, not merely sent, by that date.

A copy of this letter and all related correspondence will be publicly accessible through the Commission’s website. Persons that wish to designate information contained in their submissions as confidential must do so in accordance with the Telecommunications Act Footnote1 and with the CRTC Rules of Practice and Procedure. Footnote2 This requires that:


Original signed by

Michel Murray
Director, Dispute Resolution and Regulatory Implementation
Telecommunications Sector

c.c.: Jill Schatz, Canadian Network Operators Consortium Inc.,
John Lawford, Public Interest Advocacy Centre,
Rogers Communications Canada Inc., Howard Slawner,
ZenoRadio, Baruch Herzfeld,
Marc Lange,
Jesslyn Mullaney, CRTC,

Attach. (1)

Questions addressed to Iris Technologies Inc. (Iristel) and TELUS Communications Inc. (TCI):

  1. For the period 1 January 2018 to 30 September 2019, provide the volume of traffic in minutes, on a monthly basis, from TCI and destined for Iristel’s NPA 867 numbers. Provide the information separately for the traffic carried on Iristel’ trunks and the traffic carried on all other carriers’ trunks.
  2. On 14 August 2019, the Commission received ZenoRadio’ response to a Commission staff letter dated 11 June 2019 in which Commission staff requested information from ZenoRadio. In responding to questions 13 and 14, ZenoRadio indicated that no broadcaster programming is being accessed through an 867 NPA number and that Audionow and Zenoradio do not currently use 867 NPA numbers. ZenoRadio added that it may have put up some numbers as test years ago and suggested that the test numbers in question should not be active anymore.

Commission staff notes that calls made to several numbers listed by TCI in its application provide access to broadcasters’ programming – namely the content of radio stations or audio services – and which content seems to be made available by Audionow or Zenoradio. Commission staff notes that the situation raises questions related to the legitimacy of use of the numbers in question.

Comment on ZenoRadio’s response. Your response should include your views regarding the appropriateness of deactivating or not the 867 NPA numbers in question and the potential impact of doing so.